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The sunrise proponents do not want to count the darkness that was on the face of the deep as part of the first day. YHWH made the heavens and the earth before he said let there be light AND when Moses was describing the 24-hour rest day of the Sabbath, he says “for in six days YHWH made the heavens and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day:”

 

Was the darkness, which He called night, part of the six 24hr day of creation when everything was dark? 

 

Let’s ask Moses if the darkness was included in the six days count before the Sabbath.

 

 

Exodus 20:11 says “for in six days YHWH made “heaven” and earth, “the sea”, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day:”

 

Notice “heaven” is included in the six days therefore the darkness/night that came before the light/day is counted/included by Moses because the Spirit moved on the face of the water AFTER heaven and earth was created in darkness, therefore heaven is counted in the six days that Moses spoke of, therefore the darkness that was on the face of the deep was counted in the six day time period and this proves the 24-hour day begins at evening.

 

Yes the darkness/night is part of the six days that Moses was speaking of when he said, “for in six days YHWH made heaven and earth” and the darkness/night came before the light/day. i.e. from the first of six days until the end of six days is a period of 144 hours, . 6 times 24 hours this equals 144 hours. 

 

Yes heaven and earth was made in darkness, NOT in light, and He caused the light to shine out of darkness and after seeing that the light was good, He divided the light from the darkness (by movement) and 12 hours later the darkness/evening was completely gone on one side of the earth because the light had travel around the earth,  i.e. from the time the light came on, there was 12 more hours of darkness/night on one side of the earth before it received its 12 hours of light/day.

 

It is depending on what perspective Moses is looking at this as he writes the book of Genesis, and this determines if the 24-hour day begins at sunrise or evening.  The following will prove that from Moses’ perspective the light came around the earth a proximally 12 hours later from the time it came on.

 

Exodus 20:11 says “for in six days YHWH made “heaven” and earth, “the sea”, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day:”

 

Notice Moses included “heaven” in the six days, therefore the darkness/night that came before the light/day is counted by Moses because the Spirit moved on the face of the water AFTER heaven and earth was created when everything was still in darkness, therefore heaven is counted as one of the six days that Moses spoke of, therefore the darkness that he called night which was on the face of the deep was counted in the six day time period and this proves the 24-hour day begins at evening.

It is conclusive that the darkness that He called night, was here before He said let there be light,

 

There's no way that Moses was not counting the darkness that was upon the face of the deep, in the six day count because he mentioned the heavens been made along with the earth etc. in the six days span of time and that happened in darkness/night part of the first 24-hour day before He said let there be light/day.

 

We should ask ourselves, is Moses saying that heaven and earth, the seas, and everything was made in six days or is he saying everything was make in six days PLUS the darkness that was on the face of the deep???

 

Moses said in Exodus 20:11 “for in six days YHWH made “heaven” and earth, “the sea”, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day:”

 

 

With the theory that the six days begins at sunrise, the heavens and the darkness that was on the face of the deep would have to be excluded from the count of the six days but yet Moses includes them by saying “for in six days YHWH made the heavens and the earth.”

 

If the prophet Moses was the author of Genesis and he understood that the night/darkness, that existed before YHWH said let there be light, was part of the first day, then this should put the day begins at sunrise theory to rest once and for all but I seriously doubt it and with faith like that how could I to be wrong?

 

 

 

Brother Arnold

 Historical Evidence

I will ask for someone to give one conclusive Scripture or one conclusive Historical reference, that cannot be argued against, where a 24-hour day ever began at sunrise. Otherwise we must consider the sunrise theory a new doctrine of man.

Josephus writes the following while the Temple was still standing,


WARS OF THE JEWS book 4 CHAPTER 9 (582)

THAT VESPASIAN, AFTER HE HAD TAKEN GADARA, MADE PREPARATION FOR THE SIEGE OF JERUSALEM; BUT THAT, UPON HIS HEARING OF THE DEATH OF NERO, HE CHANGED HIS INTENTIONS; AS ALSO, CONCERNING SIMON OF GERASA

“(580) but having the advantage of situation, and having withal erected four very large towers aforehand, that their darts might come from higher places, (581) one at the northeast corner of the court, one above the Xystus, the third at another corner over against the lower city, (582) and the last was erected above the top of the Pastophoria, where one of the priests stood of course, and gave a signal beforehand, with a trumpet, at the “beginning” of every seventh day, in the “evening twilight,” as also at the “evening” when the day was “finished,” as giving notice to the people when they were to “leave off work,” and when they were to go to “work again.” (583) These men also set their engines to cast darts and stones withal, upon those towers, with their archers and slingers.”

In the above Josephus is saying that the trumpet was blown at evening which is the beginning of every seventh day and at the evening at the end of every seventh day for the people to go back to work again.

Remember Josephus is writing this during the time of the destruction of the Temple when the priesthood was still active which conclusively proves the Jews at this time understood the day begins and ends at evening and the day consisted of 24 hours. The way he phrased it does not leave any wiggle room.


To further prove the weeks were originally connected to the moon and the day begins at evening, we read fragments of the Dead sea scrolls where lunar days 4 through 25 which were uncovered at Qumran describing the moon's appearance and movements in relation to the sun and the ancient weeks. Wise, Abegg and Cooke, in their book The Dead Sea Scrolls, A New Translation, translate the fragment for lunar day 8 as follows –

4Q317
“On the eighth of the month [chodesh], the moon rules all the day in the midst of the sky...and when the sun sets, its light ceases to be obscured, and thus the moon begins to be revealed on the FIRST DAY OF THE WEEK" (pp. 301-303).

This is conclusive evidence from the Dead Sea Scrolls that the "9th" day of each month is the first day of the week and it began at sunset NOT sunrise. This is an absolute when using deductive reasoning.

This scroll was written in the ancient Palio Hebrew and not only proves lunar sabbaths but proves how they began the day which is in harmony with the book of Genesis and when unleavened bread and day of atonement begins and ends etc.

 If People don't pull thereself out of this sunrise teaching, they will only go deeper into era because era begets era and more evidence is being uncovered every day that proves that ancient civilizations began the day at evening and kept the sabbaths by the places of the moon and no matter what anyone says, the truth will stand even after we are gone on to be judged.  

 

 

 

They are those that suggest that a day is referring to the 12 hours of light only. I also believe that this is a narrow definition of a day but there’s also a broader definition of a day that covers a 24-hour space of time.

The Scripture teaches that the Almighty made heaven and earth in six days. The question is, was this 24-hour days or was it 12 hour days?  Did the Almighty move on the waters during the night/darkness and say let there be light and the light came and He saw that it was good and when He divided the light from the darkness, was it instantaneous or did He allow it to take a certain number of hours? 

We know that it was night/darkness when He began to move upon the face of the waters and when He done his creative speaking and said let there be light.  This shows that all His work was not done during the light only, as some suggest. We know, He could have allowed 12 hours for creating heaven and earth and another 12 hours for the light to separate from the darkness as it does today.  Do we really believe that He was limited to 12 hour  workdays at creation?  In other words, do you believe He would stop working when it got dark and began working again at sunrise the next day?

 The Scripture teaches that light and darkness are the same with him. It also teaches that the Mighty One of Israel neither slumbers nor SLEEPS.  If He does not sleep, why should we think that He would wait till sunrise to begin work? For someone to suggest that He only worked during the daytime is neither scriptural nor sound reasoning. I have always had it in my mind that when He divided light from the darkness, that it only took split seconds which we all know He could have done but when the Scripture indicates He was busy/worked SIX DAYS, not six minutes, we should believe it.

Day 4 in creation week, proves that these were 24-hour workdays instead of 12 hour workdays, and He did not have to wait to sunrise before beginning work again because it teaches that He made two great lights, the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night and He watched it happen. Also these lights were to divide the light from the darkness and to give light upon the earth.  And the Almighty “saw” that it was good.  If we ask our selves, WHAT WAS IT THAT HE SAW THAT WAS GOOD, was it not the sun ruling over the day and the moon and stars ruling over the night?

Ge 1:14  And YHWH said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: (Notice this is referring to the sun and moon also)
Ge 1:15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so. (Notice that both the sun and the moon gave light upon the earth on the fourth day, which indicates a 24-hour day)
Ge 1:16 And YHWH made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: He made the stars also. (This also indicates a 24-hour day)
Ge 1:17 And YHWH set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth, (Did THEY (Both) give light THAT DAY? i.e. did BOTH the sun and moon give light on the earth that day?)
Ge 1:18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and YHWH saw that it was good. (As I said above, WHAT WAS IT THAT HE SAW THAT WAS GOOD, was it not the sun and moon ruling over the day and the moon and stars ruling over the night, along with the other things? This also indicates a 24-hour day).
Ge 1:19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

With the sunrise theory, He began resting at sunrise on the 7th day.

Again, remember that He made heaven and earth in six days and according to what we just observed, they were 24-hour days.  The Almighty actually saw ever thing come to pass that He spoke into existence on day 4, which included the sun ruling the day on day 4 and the moon and stars ruling the night on day 4.

Meditate on this. When the Almighty said the evening AND the morning were the fourth day, that means that everything took place on that day, including the moon and stars ruling the night and He witnessed it and said it was good. This proves there was 24 hours involved in sitting everything in order on day four.

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The famous Sherlock Holmes, by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, was famous for saying “when the impossible has been removed, whatever remains, however improbably, must be the truth”.

The morning to morning proponents must stop trying to prove an impossibility. I do lean heavenly on deductive reasoning. When I say deductive reasoning, I am referring to removing the impossible of two choices and what remains is the truth.

Example, if we know for a fact that it had to be one of 2 men that committed a murder and we discover that one of them has an alibi and was on television at the exact time of the crime, having dinner with the president of the United States, over 1000 mi. away, with millions of people viewing it, making it impossible for him to have been the one that committed the crime, the only person left would be the one that actually committed the crime and this is called deductive reasoning.

The same is true with the Day issue. I have shown conclusive evidence that it is absolutely scripturally impossible for a 24-hour day to have begun at sunrise and therefore the truth that remains is the evening to evening 24-hour day. if someone could show conclusive evidence that cannot be intelligently argued against, where the 24-hour day cannot possibly begin at evening, then the only thing left would be the sunrise doctrine. As to this day this is not been done but I have how that it is impossible for the 24-hour day to have began at morning/sunrise.

I have demonstrated how that they could not have bought spices after the Sabbath HAD PASSED and had them with them very early in the morning of the third day resurrection, if the old day passed and the new day began at sunrise. If the Sabbath day did not pass until morning, they would not have had time to buy spices after the Sabbath had passed, but if the Sabbath had passed at evening, they could have bought spices and had them with them very early the next morning. This is called deductive reasoning. We or removing an impossibility that the day began at sunrise and what is left is the evening to evening 24-hour day.

I Also have shown how that it is scripturally impossible to have a third day resurrection because when they arrived at the sepulcher on the third day, which was early the first day of the week, He had already risen BEFORE THE THIRD DAY. i.e. that would have been a second day resurrection because he was gone before the third day began and the Scripture teaches that He would rise the third day, not the second. And with the morning to morning doctrine, He had already risen on the SECOND DAY, before the third day begun and this is unscriptural.

So when we remove the Scriptural Impossibility of a day beginning at sunrise/morning, what we have left is the evening to evening such as The Day of Atonement and the seven days of Unleavened Bread and all the days before and after these days etc. all this is really elementary and as the famous Sherlock Holmes said, “when the impossible has been
removed, whatever remains, however improbably, must be the truth”.
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